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Diskuze k filmu Batman vs. Superman: Úsvit spravedlnosti

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Tak typer z box office fora, ktery snad jako prvni 'recenzoval' TFA, se vypsal o BvS:

Here's my first impressions of the movie. There's a bit of spoiler here and there. EDIT: I did minimize the spoilers to make more readable if people want to just link to this post by itself.

First off, the screening itself was packed. I mean packed. I thought Star Wars was nuts, this took this to the next level. At least the NDAs weren't as bad. Just to expand on that a bit, the way Disney handled TFA's secrecy, which I'm sure fans approved of, was a nightmare to deal with honestly. Really cool to see so many people out to see Batman and Superman in a live action movie on big screen.

I went in with a mix of hype/anticipation and a bit of dread . I loved Watchmen, while I thought MoS was enjoyable it was a mess in the last half.

BvS is pretty dark, but there's humor here and there, way more then say MoS or Watchmen.

Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman was pure awesome and dark. You can see he's traumatized by the events in the past, and he has some fantastic lines in general (Yes we see the whole parents thing again). Nobody should really be surprised that he was good with the role considering he's a solid actor, but I thought he was great. Versus Bale? That's a interesting question, because Affleck definitely regards Batman as a permanent part of his persona, while in Nolan series he eventually doesn't want Batman. In combat he's pretty much everything everyone would hope for from a film with Batman. One comment on the latest BvS trailer said he fought like the Arkham video games from a scene they showed. That's a good comparison. He's incredible in fights. Also the way Snyder records him in action, you can actually see him fighting unlike the Nolan films, which I'd imagine would make many people happy. He also gets a chance to use his detective skills, do not worry.

Also his relationship with Irons, who plays Alfred, is just wonderful in general. Irons was exceptional in the role (Its Jeremy Irons for christ's sake, of course he nailed the role) gets some witty lines and also gets pretty emotional later on. He didn't get a lot of screentime, just enough to be effective. Always passing advice to Batman.

Now we turn to Cavill. He didn't blow me away in MoS but in this film, weirdly I feel like he gets more to work with even with less screentime. It was the first time Superman actually feels like he's a character who deals with many issues to me. The blowback from the destruction in the last movie follows him in BvS, and everywhere he goes. He's now followed by cults, and plagued by newspapers and hearings (though the hearings are influenced by Luthor, we'll get to him in a bit). His relationship with Lois (played by Amy Adams) deserves mention here, even if not a lot of screentime. Definitely a time when Superman wishes he wasn't an alien and I felt a bit of sympathy for both of them.

Cavil and his interactions with Affleck, especially the fights, are truly something to behold. Definitely worth the price of a ticket in my opinion. I could swear some of the scenes are probably something straight out of a dark graphic novel. Their alternative personas do meet, helped along by Luthor as well.

Who got more screentime? Batman or Superman? I'd say it was about equal, but it certainly did feel like Batman might have gotten slightly bit more, but who knows. I didn't bring a stop watch with me.

Eisenberg chosen as Luthor was perfect honestly to me. I know there's a ton of concern over it, but he made it work. He's also hilarious with a dark sort of humor, but he's a very scary person in general. Obviously, he never lets his scary persona show in the public, and he basically used their duels as a distraction.

There's a couple of events that the trailers haven't showed or even hinted at, and I'm not inclined to spoil that.

Also, Wonder Woman, hell yes. Again, lots of concern about Gadot on the internet and in the industry (I heard a lot), but she did well. Her fight with Doomsday is great. For such little screentime, she was able to show that her character was diverse and interesting. Definitely left me looking forward to the Wonder Woman movie. She gets pissed off don't worry heh.

Goffe, :ohmyzod:'s dead body got maybe 20 seconds of screentime, unless you count Doomsday. ;)

Fishburne, Lane, and Hunter were okay, but I think the main problem was they didn't get enough to do, so I felt nothing about them.

Yeah, the Doomsday fight. The trinity do get a few shots of them looking badass together. If you love comic book films, again, go see this film for the fight scenes.

How's the world in the movies? Gotham City is definitely Gotham City. Obviously you don't see it for the whole film. Metropolis is still littered with destruction from MoS, so I'm glad they showed that instead of ignoring it. Whether the whole destruction angle felt thrown in at the last minute, I wouldn't know because it felt organic for Wayne to be pissed about it. Even gave you a 9/11 vibe.

Oh man, the soundtrack is absolutely wonderful. Properly dark. Batman's theme especially felt super super super super dark almost to the point of repetition. MoS's theme is still there for Superman with a hint of more. Even Luthor had his own freaking soundtrack. A hint of playfulness and amusement. This part I thoroughly enjoyed. The sound design here is just fantastic, but will be mostly ignored sadly. Not a lot of people appreciate it in general.

Lots of CGI destruction porn there, but definitely feels sort of toned down till the last act. The visuals are great overall for me, but this is rather opinion based.

I feel that Snyder did learn from his mistakes and the writing/dialogue definitely feels a lot better then MoS. There are issues though (I'll address these in a different post). Juggling the characters is extremely difficult, especially for a film like this. I'm rather amazed Snyder even handled it alright. The film gets very frantic (especially towards the end), so to me the long running time flew by really quickly, but there's a few scenes they lets you breath.

Definitely somewhere above a B+. I'll settle on a final grade in a bit. Gave me pure joy to see the trinity on screen.
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Tak typer z box office fora, ktery snad jako prvni 'recenzoval' TFA, se vypsal o BvS: Here's my first impressions of the movie. There's a bit of spoiler here and there. EDIT: I did minimize the spoilers to make more readable if people want to just link to this post by itself. First off, the screening itself was packed. I mean packed. I thought Star Wars was nuts, this took this to the next level. At least the NDAs weren't as bad. Just to expand on that a bit, the way Disney handled TFA's secrecy, which I'm sure fans approved of, was a nightmare to deal with honestly. Really cool to see so many people out to see Batman and Superman in a live action movie on big screen. I went in with a mix of hype/anticipation and a bit of dread . I loved Watchmen, while I thought MoS was enjoyable it was a mess in the last half. BvS is pretty dark, but there's humor here and there, way more then say MoS or Watchmen. Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman was pure awesome and dark. You can see he's traumatized by the events in the past, and he has some fantastic lines in general (Yes we see the whole parents thing again). Nobody should really be surprised that he was good with the role considering he's a solid actor, but I thought he was great. Versus Bale? That's a interesting question, because Affleck definitely regards Batman as a permanent part of his persona, while in Nolan series he eventually doesn't want Batman. In combat he's pretty much everything everyone would hope for from a film with Batman. One comment on the latest BvS trailer said he fought like the Arkham video games from a scene they showed. That's a good comparison. He's incredible in fights. Also the way Snyder records him in action, you can actually see him fighting unlike the Nolan films, which I'd imagine would make many people happy. He also gets a chance to use his detective skills, do not worry. Also his relationship with Irons, who plays Alfred, is just wonderful in general. Irons was exceptional in the role (Its Jeremy Irons for christ's sake, of course he nailed the role) gets some witty lines and also gets pretty emotional later on. He didn't get a lot of screentime, just enough to be effective. Always passing advice to Batman. Now we turn to Cavill. He didn't blow me away in MoS but in this film, weirdly I feel like he gets more to work with even with less screentime. It was the first time Superman actually feels like he's a character who deals with many issues to me. The blowback from the destruction in the last movie follows him in BvS, and everywhere he goes. He's now followed by cults, and plagued by newspapers and hearings (though the hearings are influenced by Luthor, we'll get to him in a bit). His relationship with Lois (played by Amy Adams) deserves mention here, even if not a lot of screentime. Definitely a time when Superman wishes he wasn't an alien and I felt a bit of sympathy for both of them. Cavil and his interactions with Affleck, especially the fights, are truly something to behold. Definitely worth the price of a ticket in my opinion. I could swear some of the scenes are probably something straight out of a dark graphic novel. Their alternative personas do meet, helped along by Luthor as well. Who got more screentime? Batman or Superman? I'd say it was about equal, but it certainly did feel like Batman might have gotten slightly bit more, but who knows. I didn't bring a stop watch with me. Eisenberg chosen as Luthor was perfect honestly to me. I know there's a ton of concern over it, but he made it work. He's also hilarious with a dark sort of humor, but he's a very scary person in general. Obviously, he never lets his scary persona show in the public, and he basically used their duels as a distraction. There's a couple of events that the trailers haven't showed or even hinted at, and I'm not inclined to spoil that. Also, Wonder Woman, hell yes. Again, lots of concern about Gadot on the internet and in the industry (I heard a lot), but she did well. Her fight with Doomsday is great. For such little screentime, she was able to show that her character was diverse and interesting. Definitely left me looking forward to the Wonder Woman movie. She gets pissed off don't worry heh. Goffe, :ohmyzod:'s dead body got maybe 20 seconds of screentime, unless you count Doomsday. ;) Fishburne, Lane, and Hunter were okay, but I think the main problem was they didn't get enough to do, so I felt nothing about them. Yeah, the Doomsday fight. The trinity do get a few shots of them looking badass together. If you love comic book films, again, go see this film for the fight scenes. How's the world in the movies? Gotham City is definitely Gotham City. Obviously you don't see it for the whole film. Metropolis is still littered with destruction from MoS, so I'm glad they showed that instead of ignoring it. Whether the whole destruction angle felt thrown in at the last minute, I wouldn't know because it felt organic for Wayne to be pissed about it. Even gave you a 9/11 vibe. Oh man, the soundtrack is absolutely wonderful. Properly dark. Batman's theme especially felt super super super super dark almost to the point of repetition. MoS's theme is still there for Superman with a hint of more. Even Luthor had his own freaking soundtrack. A hint of playfulness and amusement. This part I thoroughly enjoyed. The sound design here is just fantastic, but will be mostly ignored sadly. Not a lot of people appreciate it in general. Lots of CGI destruction porn there, but definitely feels sort of toned down till the last act. The visuals are great overall for me, but this is rather opinion based. I feel that Snyder did learn from his mistakes and the writing/dialogue definitely feels a lot better then MoS. There are issues though (I'll address these in a different post). Juggling the characters is extremely difficult, especially for a film like this. I'm rather amazed Snyder even handled it alright. The film gets very frantic (especially towards the end), so to me the long running time flew by really quickly, but there's a few scenes they lets you breath. Definitely somewhere above a B+. I'll settle on a final grade in a bit. Gave me pure joy to see the trinity on screen.
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Tak příští týden už budou nějaké ohlasy...
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Tak příští týden už budou nějaké ohlasy...
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Nové tv spoty link link link link link Komentár pod posledným spotom - DC to marvel: "Well, Here I am" :D:+
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Nové tv spoty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugLIyS7Lwek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-QKNztSNys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcEtqGiP_UI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgDsT_QaCdw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvwyashDb0 Komentár pod posledným spotom - DC to marvel: "Well, Here I am" *:D**:+*
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The Joker

Hele to ti nepovím, vždycky jsem ho viděl jako hezounka, co herecky nic moc. FIlmy kde mi opravdu sednul tak 2/3, kde mne štval, tak těch bylo daleko daleko víc. Ani mi dvakrát nesedne jeho neherecká tvorba. Ale je to o sosbníách sympatiích, to si asi argumentovat nijak nechci.

JJ tímhle se Pratt hodně sundal (a čímkoliv podobným), ikdyž je to pořád tak 12% indexu JLaw :D Ale ono obecně, jak začne mít nějaká celebrita podobně patetické kecy o Bohu, tak mám pocit, že píše po lobotomii, viz třeba Jágr nebo David Luiz (jestli sleduješ fotbal).
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Hele to ti nepovím, vždycky jsem ho viděl jako hezounka, co herecky nic moc. FIlmy kde mi opravdu sednul tak 2/3, kde mne štval, tak těch bylo daleko daleko víc. Ani mi dvakrát nesedne jeho neherecká tvorba. Ale je to o sosbníách sympatiích, to si asi argumentovat nijak nechci. JJ tímhle se Pratt hodně sundal (a čímkoliv podobným), ikdyž je to pořád tak 12% indexu JLaw *:D* Ale ono obecně, jak začne mít nějaká celebrita podobně patetické kecy o Bohu, tak mám pocit, že píše po lobotomii, viz třeba Jágr nebo David Luiz (jestli sleduješ fotbal).
The Joker
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Tony: Proč? Vždyť je to sympaťák, hloupej není, průběh kariéry neskutečný, psát a režírovat umí, s herectvím je to sice horší, ale hateovat ho kvůli Gigli nebo milenkám fakt nebudu. A navíc ze sebe nevypouští "moudra" jako Chris Pratt: "The thing inside me that drives me to go out and hunt is very animal. But the remorse, emotion and respect I feel, and the closeness to God that I feel when I'm out there, is my humanity.", ale ten je přece vtipnej borec a kluk od vedle že. Je mi zle. 1000krát Affleck oproti těm novým "hvězdám".
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Tony: Proč? Vždyť je to sympaťák, hloupej není, průběh kariéry neskutečný, psát a režírovat umí, s herectvím je to sice horší, ale hateovat ho kvůli Gigli nebo milenkám fakt nebudu. A navíc ze sebe nevypouští "moudra" jako Chris Pratt: "The thing inside me that drives me to go out and hunt is very animal. But the remorse, emotion and respect I feel, and the closeness to God that I feel when I'm out there, is my humanity.", ale ten je přece vtipnej borec a kluk od vedle že. Je mi zle. 1000krát Affleck oproti těm novým "hvězdám".
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Jako jak ho brutálně nemusím, tak mne dostal tady i u Kimmela. :+
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Jako jak ho brutálně nemusím, tak mne dostal tady i u Kimmela. *:+*
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Affleck jede, klidně to mohlo bejt trochu delší :)
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Affleck jede, klidně to mohlo bejt trochu delší :)
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Tak tohle video je náhodou moc super: link
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Tak tohle video je náhodou moc super: http://twitter.com/BatmanvSuperman/status/704713175267016704
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Tak CineStar již spustil prodej vstupenek na tu předpremiéru. :+
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Tak CineStar již spustil prodej vstupenek na tu předpremiéru. *:+*
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ten batmanov motív sa mi moc nepáči, ale inak opäť vetrím soundtrack roku;)
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ten batmanov motív sa mi moc nepáči, ale inak opäť vetrím soundtrack roku*;)*
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superman
Cavill se ptá dětí jestli superman nebo batman :D
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[link="https://www.facebook.com/batmanvsuperman/videos/469194339947818/?fref=nf"]superman[/link] Cavill se ptá dětí jestli superman nebo batman *:D*
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link na niektoré tracky


The Red Capes Are Coming je super. Trochu Sherlock a trošku aj ten Elfman na konci. Zbytok ale zatiaľ meh.
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[link="https://www.youtube.com/user/WaterTowerWB/videos"]link na niektoré tracky[/link] The Red Capes Are Coming je super. Trochu Sherlock a trošku aj ten Elfman na konci. Zbytok ale zatiaľ meh.
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Leaknuly další dva tracky z alba - Men are still Good (Batmanův theme, hodně to připomíná Batman Forever) a The Red Capes are Coming (obsahuje Lexův theme a páčí se mi to dost).
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Leaknuly další dva tracky z alba - Men are still Good (Batmanův theme, hodně to připomíná Batman Forever) a The Red Capes are Coming (obsahuje Lexův theme a páčí se mi to dost).
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Shushika

Ta druhá věta je výborná! "Usoudili jsme, že by eRková verze mohla mít tři hodiny na základě... toho, že v minulý větě přiznáváme, že se o ní nic neví" :D
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Ta druhá věta je výborná! "Usoudili jsme, že by eRková verze mohla mít tři hodiny na základě... toho, že v minulý větě přiznáváme, že se o ní nic neví" *:D*
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eRko

What the “Ultimate Edition” of DC’s big blockbuster bust-up will look like remains to be seen. But given the theatrical version has a running time of 2 hours, 31 minutes, the R-rated edition could be broaching the three-hour mark.

Že by to Deadpool protrhl a na DVD bude veselejc?
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What the “Ultimate Edition” of DC’s big blockbuster bust-up will look like remains to be seen. But given the theatrical version has a running time of 2 hours, 31 minutes, the R-rated edition could be broaching the three-hour mark. Že by to Deadpool protrhl a na DVD bude veselejc?
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Čínská a japonská premiéra 25. března, takže žádný trh není posunutý do dubna nebo dál. Všechno během čtyř dní. To je snad poprvé v historii.
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Čínská a japonská premiéra 25. března, takže žádný trh není posunutý do dubna nebo dál. Všechno během čtyř dní. To je snad poprvé v historii.
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Nový trailer schválen a v kinech s Deadpoolem.
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Nový trailer schválen a v kinech s Deadpoolem.
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BlackAdder

To ho jako drží za koule a je u toho nápis FAP ? .. to je jako nějaká pubi sranda nebo to je přímo z komiksu ?
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To ho jako drží za koule a je u toho nápis FAP ? .. to je jako nějaká pubi sranda nebo to je přímo z komiksu ?
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151 minut! Pecka! Teším sa. Zo skušobných projekcích bolo dosť zaznamenatelne opakujece sa "Druhý Watchmen" čiže sa totalne teším na director´s cut:+:+
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151 minut! Pecka! Teším sa. Zo skušobných projekcích bolo dosť zaznamenatelne opakujece sa "Druhý Watchmen" čiže sa totalne teším na director´s cut*:+**:+*
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Žeby sa tento film zaplatil podobne ako Man of Steel? link :)
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Žeby sa tento film zaplatil podobne ako Man of Steel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9xZ14T0_08 *:)*
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